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okay welcome back uap studies podcast my

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name is louis borges joining me as

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always jason gilmet how are you brother

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i'm doing very good sir i'm very excited

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about our guest today yeah i am too uh

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our guest is uh he pre-dates us by a lot

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he's been doing uh this type of thing

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way before uh we've been around doing

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our thing uh the host of fade to black

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uh jimmy church is our guest today uh

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with humble reverence sir welcome to our

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show

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hey peace sign

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you know uh

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and thank you and we've been setting

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this up for a while and it's uh great to

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finally uh you know get the stars and

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the moves and the moon uh to align yeah

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and uh and make this happen but uh let's

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do this i'm i'm i'm honored so we want

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to know and again for our listeners if

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the one out of a million has not heard

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of you uh this is a good opportunity for

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you to tell everyone about yourself but

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we want to know a little bit about you

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jimmy church before the jimmy church

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radio personality and uh what kind of

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got you interested in the topic and

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interested in doing a show and having

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this kind of longevity with it yeah my

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uh my journey

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uh yeah i'm going to make this as brief

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as possible because a lot of it is is is

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quite boring of course but

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uh interesting to me but not to

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everybody else

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um but my journey

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uh was a strange one in that i i had a

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crazy mom

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uh in in the cool sense of of crazy uh

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who was into

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all things kind of esoteric and strange

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and paranormal she

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um at a very young age uh for me when i

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was five

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when i started to learn how to read

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i noticed you know shelves of edgar

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cayce books

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i didn't know who i i'm five right but

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that'll give you some idea of where my

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mom was coming from and she was always

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ouija board and and and everything else

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she introduced me to eric von daniken

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and probably when everything happened

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you know 71 or so

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with the book of the movie

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but my dad was a musician and he was in

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the army band and he was he was band

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leader of the army band so i didn't have

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dad that was a bona fide

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a career musician he did 30 years in the

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army band and retired and he's still a

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musician to this day he's in his 80s

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and my mom has recently passed away but

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but she was into her own thing and so

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what it showed me

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was that and i thought that every

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family was kind of like mine

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to you know

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what do you have to relate to you don't

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have much

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but uh i'm very thankful for that open

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mind and and that open view of the world

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that that my parents uh definitely

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brought to me

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um i was introduced uh to ufos very

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early on but that

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that's and and and then so you have this

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thing right i have my mom

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who is who's who's out of her mind

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my dad who is a musician

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and that was the path that i chose so i

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wanted to be a musician i wanted to get

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into the arts

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um obviously you can see these guitars

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behind me i have a

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pretty cool guitar collection beautiful

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collection yeah but

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and and ufos right so that that

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right there it's uh because of my

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parents and then but there was this

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strange thing that lied in the

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background and i i didn't understand it

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affection like love like affection

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the news

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newspapers and i couldn't quite figure

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that out

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but that's what i enjoyed so when i

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i would try to find somebody talking

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instead of music or television i'd

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rather watch a documentary or watch the

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news and i didn't understand why

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but wow it's 11 11. i looked at the

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clock and it's 11 11. how nice yeah i

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love that so anyway

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i had this thing and it just stayed in

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but the more and this is early i'm i'm

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i'm 10 11 12 13 years old and into talk

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radio what kid does that at that age and

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especially back then so as my

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i ran through the music industry for a

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few decades which i i totally enjoyed

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stuff but

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ufos

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what i did uh growing up i i collected

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ufo videos i collected ufo magazines and

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books

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and and conspiracy stuff

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and this is the truth

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i kept it a secret

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you know and i guess that some people

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have things that they keep secret i

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don't know if it's a porn collection

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that you keep locked in a closet or

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you have you love broadway musicals so

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you've got a collection of broadway

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musical videos whatever it is right yeah

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but you've got something that you just

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don't talk to other people about which

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is okay

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for me it was ufos

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and it got to the point where and i'm

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lugging this stuff around

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i mean i just had tons of it but i never

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talked to anybody about it and uh when

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when art bell surfaced

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and the weird part about this uh

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journey

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was this was happening across the street

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from my condo coast to coast it's across

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the street from my house

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and in sherman oaks california and

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and there was something that was planted

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in the back of my head

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going back to this talk radio thing i'm

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gonna do that

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right i don't know how it's gonna happen

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but i'm gonna host coast to coast

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i am going to get into radio i don't

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know how to do it i'm in the music

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industry i'm my career is fine

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but i've got to figure out how i want

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this done and it had been planted in my

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head since i was a kid so i was always

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rehearsing right i'm driving around in

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the car that was a bad question i would

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have asked this right yeah sports radio

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the show that i would do

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and uh and then when this whole

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universe synchronicity thing with coast

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from my patio i could look at coast to

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coast i could look at the building right

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it's across the street

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and and i used to go on coast and and

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say you know i can see my old apartment

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and um and so that that was it and then

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uh kind of figure out a way uh to

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to get this done and in which i did i i

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pulled that off back in 2007 2008 i went

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back to school and broadcast and

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journalism and

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and and learned all the you know the

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tools that i would need for this career

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and then well the rest they say is is

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history and you got a great voice like a

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great radio voice great announcer voice

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i know that you've narrated as well

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did you discover that voice or did you

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always just have that always had it oh

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yeah got it i i've uh i i can't explain

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my dad used to have

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well all of our parents did this you

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know i would have friends come over to

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the house and barbecue and whatever

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and and so he would

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uh this is my son mike you know we're

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like five six seven eight years old

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that's my son michael yeah

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this is my daughter uh carolyn hey this

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is my son jimmy what's up

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he hit puberty at four years old yeah

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what's going on and i hated it i i

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obviously i did and i was always

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about it my voice is loud it's boomy

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i can't tone it down i i can't i it the

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lower i get in volume the deeper my

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the louder that i get i can get into a

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you know if i'm excited and the high the

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you know it's not that much

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not that much

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but yeah i've had this uh since uh i was

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i was born with it yeah

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and so you get around to actually

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hosting uh you were a fill-in host for

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coast to coast from 2014 to 2020.

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so you finally get to do that what was

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that moment when you first stepped

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inside the studio and

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had to do this for the first time that

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must have been monumental for you

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of course it was um and it was a big

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deal but i mentally i was prepared for

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it for a long time and

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i had already been doing you know radio

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so in some respects um it's just another

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gig right and you have to treat it that

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and then

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the reality is

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as i'm watching the clock wind down i'm

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about to go

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and this is coast to coast a.m holy crap

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man am i really gonna say these you know

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so yeah you know and uh i

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uh and looking back i've never listened

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to any of the shows i did on coast

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um and you do that for a reason you know

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you just don't want to go and

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tarnish the way that you're

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trying to do things and freak yourself

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but um

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probably the first couple of shows uh i

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was there was some nerves there there

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has to be you're speaking to a very

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large audience and

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um and so back then knowing

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that it's the same thing with um

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if you're stepping out on stage um

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a hundred thousand people at an arena

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of course right there's a certain

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anxiety that is involved there there is

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no matter how many of those that you've

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but there's also a tremendous amount of

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anxiety if you're stepping out on to a

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club stage with 20 people there right

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and then in some cases that may be even

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more intense than going out uh you know

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onto the big stage like coast to coast

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so

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yeah you know and and i hope everybody

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can appreciate the difference

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um with coast to coast

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um or any uh fcc type of regulated uh

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live

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radio broadcast

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you

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right as subjects

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um and things and you have advertisers

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that are there and

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and you are representing

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uh a company like you know uh

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iheartradio right

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um

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premier networks where you are

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constantly censoring yourself

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it's constant you can't

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you can't there's not one mistake you're

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not allowed to do that so you're in a

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constant censorship but with um a

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self-censorship with with fade to black

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or other things i don't have to worry

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about that and not only that but on fade

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to black it's

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it's my show i own it

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and therefore i can bring on the guests

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that i want to bring on i can ask the

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questions that i want to ask i can do

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whatever i want to do and there is no

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self-censorship

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so stepping into coast that was the

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dynamic the difference between what i

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normally do during the week and then

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coast to coast on the weekends where i

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would have two

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uh different performances right one

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i am constantly thinking about

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the mistake that's about to come out of

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my mouth and and preventing that

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um and and still staying interesting

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and

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it's just freedom of thought right it

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just it just comes out in a different

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way um now

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uh coast to coast

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for me

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um and people ask me about this all the

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time and they want to know about coast

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and it was great and george and i are

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friends to this day and and yes i left

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um and i left on my own terms for my own

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reasons but

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um we're still friends and i just

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introduced george a few months ago at a

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conference and

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and and that was great hanging out with

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him

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and things are fine but

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but here's the deal for me

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i wanted coast to coast

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uh to represent its legacy

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that's what i was there to do i was

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there to

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uh

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to give everybody

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uh what they were expecting from coast

354
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right right what what what

355
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why are they there

356
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they're there because of the feelings

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that they got from coast over the years

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right that's why they're there and i

359
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wanted to try to to get to that special

360
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little moment that we all had in years

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past and i wanted to carry on the legacy

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and and that was it and that was i

363
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really enjoyed it uh for the five seven

364
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years i think six years seven years yeah

365
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that i was there it was a lot of fun

366
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i was just discussing these uap ufo

367
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topics let's say a decade ago when there

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was a lot more stigma and pre-tic tac

369
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video era there seems to be a little bit

370
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of a mini disclosure that's at least

371
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made it easier for people to talk about

372
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in the last five years but like how do

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you find it back in the day did people

374
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think you were nuts in your own inner

375
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circle like man you host a show talking

376
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about supernatural esoteric time travel

377
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like how has that changed has that

378
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improved or what was that like yeah

379
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that's a great question and of course

380
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it's changed certainly right but

381
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but

382
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i'm just can i be straight can can we

383
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just walk 100 percent

384
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tell everyone this is a safe place let's

385
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have it

386
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let's go

387
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is this um

388
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we

389
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the ufo community and and people like

390
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myself

391
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um

392
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were

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screaming from the tops of the hills

394
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right

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wanting recognition

396
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wanting people to engage whether it was

397
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the military or governments or science

398
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you know look at us we have that we've

399
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seen we've got we

400
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let's let's talk about this right and we

401
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,959
were frustrated

402
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and now

403
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it's different

404
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now

405
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the man is talking about it right yeah

406
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now we've got senate hearings now we've

407
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got uh all of the media engaged we've

408
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got harvard and universities and nasa

409
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and fast radio bursts and

410
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and everybody wants to talk about it now

411
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and i'm not so sure if it's a good thing

412
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it used to be our own little yeah you

413
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know private world and and and us

414
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against the man and you know shea

415
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guevara right yeah and and it was it was

416
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cool

417
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and and now right be careful what you

418
00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,079
wish for right you kind of like right

419
00:16:24,430 --> 00:16:22,800
back into it because they don't

420
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necessarily

421
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understand

422
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you know and and to have a senator or a

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representative

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or a spokesperson you know at the at the

425
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pentagon

426
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or even some of the newer people to the

427
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:40,480
ufo subject

428
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they haven't spent the 10

429
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20 30 40 50 years in the subject like

430
00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:48,480
many of us in the ufo community have

431
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where we have a very deep understanding

432
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of different cases in the historical

433
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record

434
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and coming into it new

435
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you're asking questions and wondering

436
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:02,079
about things from a very fresh

437
00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:03,360
perspective

438
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and you may not understand and so now

439
00:17:10,949 --> 00:17:08,880
even though it is being discussed it's

440
00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,959
frustrating us because

441
00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,880
we're saying that's the wrong question

442
00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:15,360
you're doing the wrong thing you need to

443
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:18,720
focus on this over here what about this

444
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:21,839
and and so it's like baby steps all over

445
00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:25,679
again where we wanted this action right

446
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:29,039
the action is happening but it may be

447
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,520
uh not what we had wanted so yeah i i

448
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kind of enjoy the old days uh just a

449
00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,039
little bit i'm glad we're uh we're where

450
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,360
we are at right now but

451
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:43,760
kind of miss the old days when it was us

452
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,640
against the world yeah do you have an

453
00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:48,880
example of that like uh you know what we

454
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,120
should be focusing on versus what a lot

455
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:53,120
of us are like i mean there's a lot of

456
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:54,480
different theories too like it's

457
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:57,039
disinformation it's it's like a data

458
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,440
dump there's so much info out there now

459
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:01,120
trying to find anything legitimate is

460
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:02,720
difficult so what are your thoughts on

461
00:18:08,549 --> 00:18:05,039
that well yeah and and we're always

462
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,559
going to be up against that but um

463
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one thing is for sure

464
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i believe

465
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no i know i'm going to say this

466
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this is a fact

467
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that um all of the agencies

468
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pick one

469
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all of the branches of the military pick

470
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:24,559
one

471
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uh most of the state actors around the

472
00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,120
world it doesn't matter what country

473
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you want to point at whether it's

474
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south america or europe or or asia

475
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africa

476
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everybody's been collecting

477
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this data so

478
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they are sitting on all kinds of stuff

479
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,640
now are they in direct contact

480
00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:51,600
maybe

481
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right now i'm talking about all of them

482
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or some of them in direct contact yeah

483
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yeah absolutely they would have to be

484
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and then when we just look at our

485
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government itself and those agencies

486
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they've been collecting data

487
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for seven since radar was invented in

488
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world war ii

489
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they've been collecting data since film

490
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was invented they've been collecting

491
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data so they've been sitting on this for

492
00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:21,679
a long time

493
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releasing that to the public look

494
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:27,840
we all know and it's like you know

495
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kicking a dead horse here but

496
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uh those three videos that were released

497
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by the pentagon however they were

498
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:38,559
released to the public are crap they

499
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:41,360
don't show anything yeah and

500
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and if there wasn't a ufo tag put on

501
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those videos

502
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,360
would you say ufo

503
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,600
right would you no if you're led down

504
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:53,919
the road of ufo because

505
00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,720
there is a suggestion of you if then

506
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:58,320
you're going to look at it you're going

507
00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:59,919
to say okay yeah that's strange

508
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otherwise they don't show anything

509
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:05,600
so yeah that data is there

510
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and and will they release it how much do

511
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they they know everything you know and

512
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when you have

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um uh

514
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when you ask me is there an example of

515
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this the example is is right in front of

516
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us when at the ufo hearing and the uap

517
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task force report

518
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um when you

519
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legitimately say

520
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we know for a fact it's not us and it's

521
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not russia it's not china it's not an

522
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adversary we know this as fact that's

523
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what it says in the report so we know

524
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that we can take this off of the table

525
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:44,320
well wait a minute

526
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:46,880
if it's not us i'm talking about planet

527
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:49,760
earth right yeah not us

528
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,480
then what's going on so they create the

529
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other bin

530
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,240
right so conveniently they can lump

531
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,559
everything in there well it's it's a

532
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,679
really really easy question to answer

533
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:04,000
it's either from this planet

534
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,320
or it is not yeah there is no gray area

535
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:11,039
there yeah and and that's it so that's

536
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:13,760
the evidence you know they want to say

537
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:16,960
that they can't answer uh they they need

538
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,679
to

539
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,760
go and investigate this further but

540
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,159
obviously if you're saying it's not

541
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,039
russia it's not china it's not us that

542
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,200
it is an other ben well i think that

543
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:29,200
question is answered you know it's how

544
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,559
much further we take this and i think in

545
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:33,600
2022 there's other hearings that are

546
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:36,400
about to happen we just heard about nasa

547
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,200
and

548
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,120
uh they're putting their team together

549
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,679
which was interesting uh we can circle

550
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,679
back to that if you want but i think

551
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:45,679
that 2022

552
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:48,080
is is shaping up to be a a pretty

553
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:52,240
incredible year do we cross the line

554
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,280
right i think the senators

555
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,120
senator the representatives in the

556
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,200
hearing uh

557
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,600
the majority of them didn't want to talk

558
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,480
about drones they they simply didn't

559
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:06,320
they kept pushing it you know circling

560
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:09,760
it back uh uh with bray and moultrie

561
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,720
uh to the e.t question yeah and uh i

562
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,360
think it was representative welch um

563
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,880
there were some great moments in that

564
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,240
hearing people want to talk about

565
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,799
gallagher and and timber chat and that

566
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,840
was great

567
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,840
but uh i think it was representative

568
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:25,520
welsh for me

569
00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:28,799
that uh was so strong because he

570
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,720
literally went there

571
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:32,720
he didn't

572
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,200
you know what i mean so often nobody

573
00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,840
wants to say the words right right they

574
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:39,840
don't want to say the word and welch

575
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:42,960
goes hey okay so uh what about e.t what

576
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,360
about extraterrestrials the universe is

577
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,360
a big place there's a lot of stuff going

578
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:49,919
on are they here

579
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,559
you know and and so we got the

580
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,200
flapping jaws if you remember

581
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,000
from bray moultrie and then welch came

582
00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:59,679
back with okay

583
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,840
so are we gonna discuss e.t and

584
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:03,520
extraterrestrials

585
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,000
in the classified briefing later on this

586
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:08,240
afternoon yeah and i thought man that

587
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,400
was glorious you know and that was

588
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,880
somebody that that is generally

589
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:15,120
interested in this i don't want to talk

590
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:18,799
about drones this is a ufo hearing i

591
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:21,200
want to talk about what's going on uh

592
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:23,360
out there and it was just it was

593
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,400
wonderful

594
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,159
it felt like it was just a hearing for

595
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,320
the sake of doing it like i heard ross

596
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,000
coldhard when he was on your show and he

597
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:32,080
was even saying that you know

598
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,440
the video they chose was the grainiest

599
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,679
piece of [\h__\h] video they could have ever

600
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,919
picked out and they even had to rewind

601
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,840
it and everyone's asking like okay can

602
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:43,760
can you point out what exactly we're

603
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,919
supposed to be seeing in this video so

604
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:47,600
yeah i mean it even

605
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,600
released the atip or the gimbal or the

606
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,679
go fast those are military sanctioned

607
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:53,760
videos and even though they're not that

608
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:55,200
great they're still better than the

609
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,679
videos they chose to put in the hearing

610
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,919
so for me i'm excited about the idea of

611
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,679
future hearings but if it's going to be

612
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:03,679
more of the same like

613
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,440
i'm you know it's just we're not really

614
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,919
getting that disclosure that we really

615
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:09,279
are looking for and maybe it's just

616
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:12,400
impatience on an enthusiast's behalf but

617
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,840
it just felt to me like you want a

618
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,520
meeting here's your meeting we looked

619
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,000
into it this is the best we got you know

620
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:21,200
really nothing to it yeah but but louie

621
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,240
is it

622
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,320
what's the alternative

623
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,919
no well they could just keep silent like

624
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:27,760
they always have too right so and and

625
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:30,880
that and that's not the the right way to

626
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,240
go and no matter what look we were all

627
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,520
frustrated

628
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,320
okay and i totally get that but there

629
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,279
had to be a first hearing yep you know

630
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,840
and and here's the here's my other

631
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,440
concern with that

632
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:47,679
if what if everything happened in the

633
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,640
hearing

634
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,159
whatever what if it all happened dude we

635
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,799
got cool we got crash saucers we've got

636
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,440
dead bodies we've got live et's we

637
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,840
interview them every day we're talking

638
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,000
we've got a radio signal with zeta

639
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,080
reticuli and we know what's going you

640
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,000
know if everything happened in that

641
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,760
hearing there wouldn't be another

642
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,279
hearing would there

643
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,880
right and we would have sat back and

644
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,480
went wow that was pretty cool okay i

645
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,880
guess we don't need any more of that

646
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:14,480
you have to

647
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:19,520
have somebody like timber chet and and

648
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:22,799
others step up and go okay all right

649
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,559
uh we need more that wasn't enough

650
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,039
and and that's that's that's the part of

651
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:30,960
this where no matter who you are in the

652
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,360
ufo community if you were happy with the

653
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,600
hearing if you weren't happy with it you

654
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:37,760
have to sit here and say okay this is a

655
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,159
first step this is the first hearing now

656
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,720
we need to have many more and the other

657
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:45,600
part and that's that's me i mean we have

658
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:46,480
to

659
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,880
uh you know keep our foot on the gas but

660
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:51,200
here's the other part and and i'm glad

661
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:52,880
you brought up ross

662
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,000
because ross and i dived into a section

663
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,640
in that um that interview

664
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,600
which i think is is very important

665
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,760
the the issue

666
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,600
of et

667
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,159
visiting this planet

668
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:10,080
that's just a general statement

669
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,600
underneath that

670
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:15,039
there is probably an infinite array of

671
00:26:17,549 --> 00:26:16,080
issues

672
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:17,559
infinite

673
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,039
from energy and propulsion

674
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:24,559
and anti-gravity

675
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,919
uh to

676
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:27,440
abductions

677
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,200
uh to not only um other tech but what

678
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,240
about lawsuits what about other secrets

679
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,279
what about the weaponization of space

680
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:38,960
um

681
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,120
and underneath that the next thing you

682
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,120
know it's the peeling back

683
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:45,120
there there needs to be

684
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,720
specialized

685
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,720
focused hearings

686
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,159
one that is going to talk about

687
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:52,080
exoplanets and one that is going to talk

688
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,080
about health issues one that's going to

689
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,159
talk about communication well you know

690
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:58,480
what i mean and and and that's how you

691
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,279
branch this out you can't do everything

692
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:03,520
in one 90-minute hearing

693
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,919
um so that's why i'm happy about the

694
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,320
hearing i'm happy that it happened

695
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,799
um i'm excited about the future

696
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,360
um did i throw up my hands during that

697
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,799
hearing 30 or 40 times going come on man

698
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:18,559
yeah of course i did

699
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:21,840
yeah i did um but i'm excited that it

700
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,279
happened and and just that

701
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,600
that that that moment

702
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:29,200
um i think it's one of the most

703
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,720
important times in in in modern history

704
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,039
if not in all of history

705
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,000
that this issue is now being officially

706
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,640
discussed in a public forum there was an

707
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,880
uh i'll make this really quick last

708
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:44,159
summer

709
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,039
um

710
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:47,360
i thought was one of the biggest moments

711
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,360
of my life

712
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,880
watching

713
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,600
press conference live i'm in the bunker

714
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,440
watching press conference

715
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,039
and uh

716
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:59,200
what was her name pasaki right she's up

717
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,640
there and

718
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,799
out of uh so this

719
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:04,720
this report raises its hands about the

720
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,960
uap task force report

721
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,880
raises his hand

722
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,000
and uh

723
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:12,240
it says so what about the ufos whatever

724
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,120
right

725
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,200
and and to have

726
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,679
ufos

727
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:19,679
on the podium

728
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,520
of the press room of the white house

729
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:25,440
said

730
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,399
right

731
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,559
big deal yeah

732
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,760
and uh i i got out my cell phone man i'm

733
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,919
just like taping the screen right now

734
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,399
like oh my this is great say it again

735
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,080
say it again say it again

736
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,000
and uh that was a big deal

737
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,600
and so yes these are crazy crazy fun

738
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:44,720
times

739
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,440
and although that ufo hearing may not

740
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,679
have been everything to everybody

741
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,320
um it's just the first of many

742
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:54,320
the one that shocked me because we have

743
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,240
you know canada starting to wake up to

744
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,159
this issue as well there's uh larry

745
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,720
maguire and another lady as well and the

746
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:02,240
canadian politics are trying to push

747
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,520
forward

748
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,520
what's going on over canadian skies and

749
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,240
over our nuclear facilities and all that

750
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,640
jazz not that we have a lot of them um

751
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,320
but even the canadian military is

752
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,640
starting to pick up on this paul hellyer

753
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,080
was ahead of his time i think because

754
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,000
he's been calling out that something's

755
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:20,159
been going on for quite some time

756
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:21,760
and then it was also that and i'm bad

757
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,320
with names jimmy but uh that

758
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:27,039
general in his israel that uh ran the

759
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,480
space program

760
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:29,600
isham

761
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,960
oh my god do you know his name that's

762
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,559
yeah man yeah

763
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:34,240
that's what we have you on louie yeah

764
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,760
yeah he's the guy that said there was

765
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:37,840
like an intergalactic federation we're

766
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:40,080
all in communication and this is all old

767
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,960
news yeah which to me is like whew

768
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,960
because paul was saying something's in

769
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,720
it very similar to that

770
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,320
and now you've seen articles come out

771
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,840
that there might be some races that

772
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:52,000
don't have our best interests at heart

773
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,679
and all that sort of stuff i mean my

774
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,760
facebook is inundated and flooded with

775
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,000
this sort of stuff but when you hear

776
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,080
stuff like that you know that's been

777
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,600
going on for quite some times that put

778
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,520
us at the bottom of the totem pole

779
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,799
really if you think about it because we

780
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,320
don't have the technology that these

781
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,399
things have and you're right like it

782
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:10,559
does have major implications on our

783
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,760
species like you mentioned technology

784
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,760
health-wise what you know what can

785
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,279
happen to our health can we live longer

786
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:18,880
than we do

787
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,840
even

788
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,600
health issues louis and i have covered

789
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:24,000
that with uh orbs and uh close

790
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:25,840
encounters some people end up with

791
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,159
health issues really rare diseases that

792
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,480
they end up with so yes it does bring

793
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,640
about a lot of questions uh into that

794
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:34,159
but what is your thought

795
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,760
on that like if do you think there's

796
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,360
could be a federation on there do you

797
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:39,600
think it's still just a mystery it could

798
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,559
just be

799
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,640
one visitation from one species because

800
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,880
there seems to be a lot of different

801
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:46,960
things being mentioned here right so i

802
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,360
think that might be part of disclosure

803
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:51,440
that's so hard to handle is that

804
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:53,200
there's a lot of them

805
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,799
yes and uh that's a great question and a

806
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,080
great point

807
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:01,120
um it's a numbers game

808
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:02,480
pure and simple

809
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:06,240
so if we take out let's just take out

810
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,600
uh

811
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,640
my friends that are palladian or

812
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,480
whatever right right take all of that

813
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,000
off of the table for a second let's just

814
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,480
talk about numbers

815
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:18,480
we now know

816
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,240
and this is science talking this isn't

817
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:24,799
crazy-ass jimmy church this is

818
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,799
this is science that in our own milky

819
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:29,760
way

820
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,840
that we have

821
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:34,320
in excess of 40

822
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,880
billion earth-like planets with water in

823
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:39,039
the goldilocks zone

824
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,880
40 billion wow probably

825
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,640
a hundred

826
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,039
or more

827
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:48,720
every star

828
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,279
when you walk out in your backyard and

829
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:53,440
you look up at the sky

830
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:56,240
every star that you see

831
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,880
has at least one planet

832
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,720
every one

833
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,440
so it's a numbers game yeah it's a

834
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:05,679
numbers game so if that is the where we

835
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:09,039
have one trillion stars just in our

836
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:10,720
milky way

837
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,080
one trillion stars that's at least one

838
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,000
trillion planets does

839
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,080
does everybody understand how big of a

840
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:21,120
number a trillion is that's a thousand

841
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,720
billions yes

842
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:24,159
okay so

843
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:25,120
that that

844
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,159
it's it's

845
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,159
it's a numbers it's an astronomical

846
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:30,240
number that we cannot wrap our head

847
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,200
around

848
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,679
now if you take

849
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,320
uh and and and let's let's remember that

850
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,799
25 years ago you know how many planets

851
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:39,919
were out there

852
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,799
you said powers

853
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,279
zero we were still wondering we were

854
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,039
still hoping to find our first one

855
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,000
that's 25 years ago today

856
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,279
40 billion just in our milky way

857
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,399
that are earth-like not gas giants right

858
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,960
earth-like rocky planets with water on

859
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,039
them in the goldilocks zone in other

860
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:02,880
words other earths

861
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,360
okay now out of that

862
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,760
you cannot stop life on earth we've

863
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,840
tried we've tried to kill ourselves a

864
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,720
lot

865
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,559
and we've tried to wipe everything out

866
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,360
here a lot we've had five maybe six

867
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,480
extinction events here on this planet

868
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,559
and what happened immediately after that

869
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,039
life flourished new species

870
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,039
we can't stop life here

871
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,000
if there are 40 billion earth-like

872
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,159
planets like that out there it's the

873
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,360
same situation going on there you cannot

874
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:35,840
stop life so now let's just take this

875
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:38,880
one step further and let's get to today

876
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,159
out of that

877
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:42,080
how many have

878
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:42,960
life

879
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,080
how many have advanced beyond us right

880
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:53,440
right okay the the the universe is a big

881
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:56,880
place it's 95 billion light years across

882
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,320
in the observable what we know about 95

883
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:02,240
billion light years across

884
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,919
we have only us earthlings we've only

885
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,360
gone like

886
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,599
four hours

887
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:12,159
away from our planet

888
00:34:18,829 --> 00:34:13,040
four

889
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,839
all right and i'm talking about

890
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,760
voyager as far as us

891
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,159
now 95 billion light years across and

892
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,040
we've only gone four hours away

893
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,760
and if uh humans

894
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,760
that's voyager but humans how far have

895
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,760
we gone away from the planet

896
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,599
we've walked to the end of the driveway

897
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:37,119
to check the mail

898
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,000
that's how far we've left our planet but

899
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,200
if you are a little more advanced than

900
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:45,200
us let's talk about those 40 billion

901
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,639
planets again

902
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,200
how many how many civilizations out

903
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,760
there if you take a fraction of 40

904
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:53,599
billion you have to remember each

905
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:54,639
billion

906
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:57,359
is a thousand million okay we're talking

907
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,040
about huge numbers right so and we throw

908
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:03,760
around a billion so often like it's just

909
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:06,400
oh it's just a billion that's a thousand

910
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,599
million

911
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:10,079
okay so let's we got to keep this in

912
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,839
perspective

913
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:12,720
so

914
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:16,880
let's say we take a tenth of a percent

915
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,240
of 40 billion tenth of a percent

916
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:22,400
it's kind of small number right we're

917
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:23,760
talking about

918
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,200
a million civilizations

919
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:29,760
advanced beyond us

920
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,480
in our milky way it and and that i'm

921
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,119
telling you i'm being very conservative

922
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,400
now what do we do here we're out looking

923
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,560
every day for more exoplanets we're

924
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,640
sending out probes we're trying to

925
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,320
figure this out we want to know we're

926
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:46,000
looking for fast radio bursts we're

927
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,839
searching for life we've just launched

928
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,240
the james webb space telescope what is

929
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,720
it doing it's now we can look at the

930
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,160
atmospheres

931
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:57,200
of exoplanets a million light years away

932
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,480
from earth that's crazy technology right

933
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,160
well if we

934
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,800
if we have a million civilizations in

935
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:06,480
our milky way

936
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,560
more advanced than us

937
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:10,240
than they know

938
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:18,230
we are a beautiful blue gem

939
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:21,520
just glowing you can see the life you

940
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,160
can see the oxygen and water and carbon

941
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:26,880
dioxide and and everything else on this

942
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,839
planet

943
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,040
from

944
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,040
millions of light years away we stand

945
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,520
out just like what we are trying to do

946
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,359
we're trying to seek out planets like

947
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:38,400
ours so they've been aware of us for a

948
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,160
very long time and and that's it and

949
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:44,320
they've been visiting here it's not one

950
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,440
it's not two it's thousands right it's

951
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,560
thousands and uh one last thing then uh

952
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,880
we'll roll on to uh the next topic i'm

953
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,040
very passionate about this

954
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:57,440
if we have

955
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:00,640
billions of earth-like planets

956
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,680
how much time does it take

957
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:05,760
to investigate each one

958
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,560
and it's kind of like star trek oh

959
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,119
here's a this is an uncharted planet uh

960
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,960
we know nothing about it well they do a

961
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,040
drive-by they check it out they log it

962
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:17,200
and they go i mean you're not going to

963
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:18,800
hang out there for a couple of weeks

964
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,760
you've got another 39 billion planets to

965
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:23,359
try to

966
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,040
report on and travel to and investigate

967
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,040
you're not going to spend so how many of

968
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:31,760
these thousands tens of thousands of

969
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,240
of etcs out there extraterrestrial

970
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,599
civilizations um uh stop by here but

971
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:39,359
never come back

972
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,160
right

973
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,480
it's it's it's just a numbers game and

974
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,240
that's the only way to look at it and

975
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,960
here's the other uh a little small

976
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,119
comment i want to make

977
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,040
in the

978
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,359
english dictionary in webster's

979
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,040
dictionary

980
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,720
i'll pose this question to the both of

981
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,800
you i'm going to let you take a guess

982
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,960
how many words are in the

983
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:03,440
webster's dictionary

984
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:04,640
louie

985
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,599
26 000

986
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,560
next

987
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,880
uh i'm gonna say about

988
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,640
a hundred thousand

989
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:15,520
better 175 000

990
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,480
okay

991
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,800
book is this thick

992
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,230
there are a trillion stars

993
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:26,960
in the milky way

994
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,680
that have to be named numbered cataloged

995
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,680
how big is that book

996
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,520
there are another

997
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,079
uh trillion planets

998
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:39,119
there's 40 billion

999
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,800
earth-like planets

1000
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,880
how big of a database are we talking

1001
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,240
about here

1002
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:46,240
just put wrap your head just in our

1003
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,280
milky way there's another at least one

1004
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:51,839
trillion of us out there

1005
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:54,560
and the numbers exponentially grow right

1006
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:57,680
from there so how much of this database

1007
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,880
is there and how long does it take to go

1008
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:02,960
and catalog

1009
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,000
every single star

1010
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,400
and multiply that out by billions of

1011
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,560
galaxies the zeros just get mind

1012
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,960
boggling trillions of games trillions

1013
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,800
yeah that we know of we don't have a

1014
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,119
clue right no we don't

1015
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,079
we don't we don't and and uh

1016
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,400
i keep saying i'll stop

1017
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,720
don't don't stop stop

1018
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,560
here's the thing

1019
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:28,640
we we know that the universe is

1020
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,760
expanding and it's expanding at at a

1021
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:34,240
greater rate every day if that speed is

1022
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,440
increasing

1023
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,680
and we know what the speed of light is

1024
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,640
right okay so um e equals m c squared

1025
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,720
and all of that stuff so

1026
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,280
uh the universe is

1027
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,480
expanding at a certain point

1028
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,560
at the speed of light

1029
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,880
and then on the outside of that it is

1030
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,280
faster than the speed of light that's a

1031
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,119
pretty crazy nothing's supposed to go

1032
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:58,880
faster than the speed of light right

1033
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:01,520
right but at that horizon

1034
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,800
out here and remember i mentioned 95

1035
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,880
you know million light years across a

1036
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,200
billion light years across that is

1037
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,280
the uh

1038
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,200
observable universe

1039
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,960
but outside of that

1040
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,000
everything is falling off of the horizon

1041
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,160
we don't see it we don't know

1042
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,640
we don't know what is out there that it

1043
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:25,200
was created and has expanded how many

1044
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,319
galaxies and we will never know right we

1045
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,079
will never

1046
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,400
you know they say never say never well

1047
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,240
in this case i'm telling you

1048
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,240
we will never

1049
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:39,440
ever know so when we talk about the

1050
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:42,160
universe and trillions of galaxies and

1051
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,119
each galaxy have trillions of stars this

1052
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,440
is just what we can observe

1053
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:49,920
everything else uh beyond that is is

1054
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,880
theory guesswork and your opinion is is

1055
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:54,480
just as valid as

1056
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,630
yeah he's anti uh anti-ufo anti-uap

1057
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,670
he's in for a crazy awakening

1058
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,160
he's bill nye the science guy i used to

1059
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,079
like that guy growing up and then i saw

1060
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,599
him trying to be a debunker and it's

1061
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,520
like you know what screw you bill nye i

1062
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:15,359
don't like you anymore thank you for my

1063
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,119
childhood but i'm not no longer

1064
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,040
following you get me out of trouble and

1065
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,960
i learned about insects but i'm not such

1066
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,880
a fan anymore right right i will never

1067
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,599
wear a bow tie yeah yeah

1068
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,359
ever

1069
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,240
so with the nasa uh recently getting

1070
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,760
involved inside the game do you think

1071
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,040
that's gonna

1072
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,280
amount to anything like is nasa going to

1073
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,800
beat the government when it comes down

1074
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,440
to investigating ufos are they simply

1075
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:41,040
putting on a front right now showing

1076
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,760
that they're trying to look for ufos

1077
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:45,680
like what are your thoughts on

1078
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,920
this whole new venture that nasa's on

1079
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,880
yeah

1080
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,760
i think nasa had to take a a a public

1081
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,280
stance on this

1082
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:56,160
um they are the civilian space agency

1083
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:57,680
right and and

1084
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:00,560
and the scrutiny is is certainly going

1085
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,280
to be on them to a certain degree

1086
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,240
just like it is on the nsa and the cia

1087
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:08,079
and the navy and the branches of the

1088
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,160
military for sure um but that being said

1089
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:14,800
bill nelson the administrator of nasa a

1090
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:18,400
few months ago an extraordinary moment

1091
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,760
he was being interviewed uh by

1092
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,599
the politics department of the

1093
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,359
university i think it was university of

1094
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,200
virginia if i'm

1095
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,680
i could be wrong but east coast school

1096
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:31,280
and it was it was live it was a live

1097
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,000
stream and the last ten this is just the

1098
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,440
politics of nasa negotiating washington

1099
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,839
dc that's what this interview was about

1100
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:41,920
but at the end uh

1101
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:44,480
bill nelson took 10 minutes to talk

1102
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,319
about e.t

1103
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,880
right and and he made some pretty

1104
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,480
extraordinary

1105
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,440
um you know when he was

1106
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:55,280
do they ever cross the line well

1107
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:58,480
actually he did he did cross the line

1108
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:59,440
and

1109
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,640
um

1110
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,000
now

1111
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,760
what bill's position he's the

1112
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,240
administrator of nasa right and that's

1113
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:09,359
by the way his position the boss of nasa

1114
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:10,880
is called the administrator not the

1115
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:14,000
director right the ceo he's the

1116
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,079
administrator nonetheless

1117
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,000
um he he

1118
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:20,480
he said some pretty extraordinary things

1119
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,440
the position that nasa spoke about this

1120
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:25,440
week was a different one

1121
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,280
they started off this presentation

1122
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:31,040
which was about other subjects but then

1123
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,319
they announced

1124
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,119
uh the formation of this group

1125
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,240
they said that

1126
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,040
uaps are not et

1127
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:40,960
right they started off with that blanket

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00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,319
statement

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00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,560
and that's pretty interesting how you

1130
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,319
start your research in your

1131
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:47,839
investigation

1132
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,560
with an answer yeah with an absolute

1133
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,800
yeah yeah and i i thought that was a bit

1134
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,640
strange and it was also

1135
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:56,960
the opposite of of bill nelson's a

1136
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,000
position on this uh but here's here's

1137
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:02,400
where i think it gets very curious

1138
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,359
um

1139
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,640
nasa

1140
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,240
along with you know things like the

1141
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:09,599
james webb and tess and and others

1142
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,760
hobble other space telescopes they've

1143
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,319
been looking at this for a very long

1144
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,359
time but it doesn't just rest with that

1145
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,040
they have

1146
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:21,680
many sensor and information gathering

1147
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,119
satellites uh in position around earth

1148
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,079
what have they tracked right what have

1149
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,319
they tracked approaching earth what have

1150
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,560
they tracked uh

1151
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,640
entering our atmosphere

1152
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,079
and uh do they track these objects going

1153
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,720
to the ground and it could be

1154
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:42,800
uh the reason for a lot of this well you

1155
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,760
know asteroids meteors meteorites

1156
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,400
right okay comet fragments

1157
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:50,079
well yeah you're going to trade well the

1158
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,599
same exact

1159
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,760
technology and sensor equipment for all

1160
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,920
of that like omuamua

1161
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,680
um is is

1162
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,319
is just based on natural occurrences and

1163
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,400
and so you have the ability to track

1164
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:03,520
anything

1165
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,960
so what is it that they know

1166
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,560
for them to take that position

1167
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,240
immediately that

1168
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,640
um it's not e.t and there's nothing

1169
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,000
going on out there we're going to look

1170
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:15,760
at other occurrences for this and

1171
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:18,560
natural phenomena is the wrong position

1172
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,680
to take

1173
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,079
and i just found that very very

1174
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,319
interesting because it was the opposite

1175
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,400
of what bill nelson stated a few months

1176
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,520
ago

1177
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:28,960
yeah spoke with

1178
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,400
dr kevin knuth and he i asked him like

1179
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,680
what was this

1180
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,480
idea at nasa about ufos and he says it's

1181
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,400
probably the furthest place

1182
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:40,560
you can possibly get from the subject of

1183
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:43,839
uaps or ufos is at nasa like nobody

1184
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,240
really thinks about it talks about it so

1185
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:47,680
this change

1186
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,720
uh recently in the news about nasa is a

1187
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,240
great change and you think of all

1188
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,440
agencies

1189
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,040
it would be that agency that would have

1190
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,200
the most invested interest in finding

1191
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,359
out if anything's coming to visit us so

1192
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,280
for them to have said you know stay mom

1193
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,359
for so long to have not said anything

1194
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,520
for so long right and now getting into

1195
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,160
the game that's like like you said 2022

1196
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,319
shaping up to be a great year for

1197
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,480
ufp disclosure or at least the start of

1198
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,680
it well i like kevin he's a very smart

1199
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:18,400
guy but um i disagree with this

1200
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:19,680
statement

1201
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,720
i think that everybody on this planet

1202
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:24,000
except for

1203
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:25,599
neil degrasse tyson i think that

1204
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,680
everybody on this planet wonders about

1205
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,920
uh what's going on out there and if we

1206
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,319
are alone in the universe it's just in a

1207
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,160
general position

1208
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,640
yeah and then underneath that

1209
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,880
um and this includes uh the the staff

1210
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,520
over at nasa in any position i don't

1211
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,280
care if you're a janitor

1212
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:49,839
or if you're a astrophysicist or if

1213
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:52,960
you're an engineer working on engines

1214
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:55,839
um and motors

1215
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:58,640
wonders about this and it is discussed

1216
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,680
all the time whether it's you know

1217
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,240
somebody like fermi some astrophysicist

1218
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,480
over lunch going okay

1219
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,480
there's tons of life out there where is

1220
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,400
everybody this this is a conversation

1221
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,880
that happens all the time so to say that

1222
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,880
nobody at nasa is interested in this and

1223
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,800
they don't discuss this no i think it's

1224
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,560
the exact opposite

1225
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:21,680
um they would here is the deal

1226
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:24,880
and this is a fact and

1227
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,760
and kevin i love you but listen to my

1228
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:29,920
words right now

1229
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,960
nasa has always struggled for funding

1230
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,400
always

1231
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,599
they need more and they need more today

1232
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,000
the one thing that would guarantee

1233
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,079
funding for nasa

1234
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,800
till the end of time

1235
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,640
is e.t

1236
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:49,359
and so if if the one thing that would

1237
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,839
benefit

1238
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:53,040
nasa is

1239
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,319
e.t

1240
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,240
they would have all the funding they

1241
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,520
they would have

1242
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,599
more money than they could spend

1243
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,440
every single project that they've ever

1244
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,640
wanted to do

1245
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:05,599
every rocket every probe every manned

1246
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,040
mission anything interstellar craft

1247
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:10,720
whatever they wanted they would have the

1248
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,599
funding for it so to say that they're

1249
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:15,680
not in ho ho ho

1250
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,559
they understand the importance of that

1251
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,280
you want to build a city on the moon you

1252
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:23,280
want to build a city on mars like

1253
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,559
tomorrow

1254
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,640
show that there's life on mars

1255
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:28,079
yeah show it

1256
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,359
when new york city part two gets built

1257
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,119
on mars instant

1258
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,599
all the funding you would ever need

1259
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,839
oh that's brilliant uh

1260
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,920
we're nearing the end of the hour here

1261
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:42,000
jimmy where can people find you online i

1262
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,760
know that you're everywhere so obviously

1263
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,160
if you just google uh jimmy church

1264
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:48,319
you'll have like three google pages full

1265
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:50,960
of his uh work but uh

1266
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,280
from your uh where would you guide

1267
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,880
people to go to it's just

1268
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,440
jimmychurchradio.com

1269
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,440
just go there well everything's social

1270
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:01,599
media links are there and you can listen

1271
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,559
to the show there everything's free

1272
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,079
not everything but

1273
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,559
but uh most stuff is free yeah just go

1274
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:11,119
to jimmychurchradio.com

1275
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,079
if i

1276
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:14,079
sat here and listed all of the social

1277
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:15,200
media

1278
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,800
i would confuse myself but

1279
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,760
jimmychurchradio.com is is right there

1280
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:21,760
and and you can click

1281
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:24,400
and whatever your platform of choice is

1282
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,200
for

1283
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:27,680
social media or listening or watching

1284
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:28,960
we've got it all right there so

1285
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,960
jimmychurchradio.com

1286
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,960
perfect and definitely for the listeners

1287
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,960
if you haven't followed jimmy church yet

1288
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,480
please do so

1289
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,200
his guests are amazing his radio show is

1290
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,680
amazing and the man himself is amazing

1291
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:43,760
he's uh like i said it's great to have

1292
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,520
you on we've been fans for a while louie

1293
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,800
do you have any final questions for our

1294
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:48,559
guest today just want to send a big

1295
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,400
thanks so to jimmy for uh being on our

1296
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,480
program you know it's difficult as you

1297
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,839
probably know to get really good

1298
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:56,079
credible people on a regular basis

1299
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,839
sometimes you'd rather have nobody than

1300
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,599
have somebody that doesn't you know

1301
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,359
align with what you're trying to produce

1302
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,680
uh and thank you for being a gift to the

1303
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,280
body that we're trying to create here

1304
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,520
and the whole you know topic of ufology

1305
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:09,280
in the community and you keep it on

1306
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,359
point you speak your mind you're blunt

1307
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,280
and to the point and uh we love you for

1308
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:14,880
it so thanks for being on the show today

1309
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,440
buddy right right back at you and i've

1310
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,359
been a fan of you guys and and you know

1311
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,240
i lurk in in the background so

1312
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,720
uh it goes right back at you and i i

1313
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:26,800
really appreciate it and by the way i

1314
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:28,960
just want to say this louie uh your

1315
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,000
microphone the shure mv

1316
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,319
that's what i mic my marshall with i got

1317
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,160
one right down here

1318
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,839
nice yeah

1319
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:39,760
it's the mini version of the big daddy

1320
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,839
and it's a third of the price and uh it

1321
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,839
works good no it sounds great sounds

1322
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,680
great on guitars i don't need to run it

1323
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,280
through an amp or anything like that

1324
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:49,119
it's already got the built-in drivers

1325
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:51,119
perfect usb based

1326
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,880
uh i should have i should have dropped a

1327
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,559
sure promo before maybe i would have got

1328
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:55,839
a free one but

1329
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:01,670
yeah

1330
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,240
by the way i used jbl uh pro tour

1331
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,480
headphones as well so uh i should have

1332
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:08,160
dropped a promo for those guys before

1333
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:09,599
you got that bad boy on the house

1334
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,160
anything else here's your crack

1335
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,400
ferrari is listening i'm a real fan of

1336
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:16,240
red on black and i love the paddle

1337
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:17,200
shifter

1338
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,640
i get my old change of jiffy lube

1339
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,400
awesome

1340
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:24,160
enjoy the rest of your day and thank you